Hardware Specs
- Description:
It's rough around the edges and a little slow, but the HD-A1 produces the best HDTV pictures currently available at a shockingly low price. - Supplier:
Toshiba Consumer Products America - Price:
$500 American, or £450 average price from a UK importer - Technical Details:
● Video decoder from Broadcom
● 2.2ghz Intel Pentium 4 processor with 1gb RAM
● Converts 1080p HD-DVD discs to 1080i for output via HDMI (and Component, if the disc allows)
● Converts R1 and R0 NTSC DVDs to 480p, 720p, or 1080i (via HDMI only)
● Requires 100VA or better stepdown transformer for use in the UK
- Power Consumption:
- Pros:
● The best HD image quality currently available at half the price of the closest competition
● Astonishingly good value for a brand new format
● Ongoing improvements being made via firmware upgrades
- Cons:
● Wait times for player and disc start-up
● Region 1, NTSC standard-def DVD playback only
● Some cumbersome usability issues, such as requiring to restart disc playback after resolution change
● Strange remote control
● Doesn't seem to show blacker than black video
● Doesn't output native 1080p video
● Quiet fan noise may irritate
Toshiba HD-A1: HD DVD Player (US Import)
01-07-2006 17:10 | 49887 views | David Mackenzie | Show Backlinks
Introduction
Just a few months ago, Toshiba managed to get its first HD DVD player onto store shelves in the United States, beating the rival Blu-ray format out of the door.
Although I personally have no format or brand loyalty bias (I just wish the two had managed to create a unified format), it's undeniable that those who DID instead wait for Blu-ray were, for the large part, disappointed by the video quality of the early launch titles. As such, there's been what seems like a large number of ex-Blu-ray supporters - myself included - who have had to, for the time being, eat humble pie and make a late change to their HD format plans.
In the months that it's been available, Toshiba has worked on further improving the rough-around-the-edges HD-A1 by means of firmware upgrades. This review concerns itself with the latest version at the time of writing (July 1, 2006). So, don't think that Toshiba have rushed this thing out the door and abandoned it, because the support is ongoing. They make this very clear in the manual. NOTE: As of originally posting this review, Toshiba has released firmware version 2.0. The review has been updated accordingly.
The HD-A1 is, in terms of performance, supposedly identical to its pricier brother, the HD-XA1. The only differences are mechanical - the HD-A1 lacks the automatic flip-down door on the front of the unit, an RS-232 port (to allow other home theatre devices to control the player) and the backlit remote. The price you pay for these added features? An additional $300 (RRP).
First Looks
To cut to the chase, the HD-A1 isn't going to win any beauty contests. Some have likened its design to that of an old VCR. It's true that the player certainly is boxy and, compared to today's slimline DVD players, large.It also features a piano black glossy front. I can't for the life of me understand the current manufacturer obsession with this because I don't think it looks good, and it picks up fingerprints and occasionally scratches. It makes little sense that the part of the player you're going to be touching the most has this finish!
Nevertheless, when you consider that this is new technology in a case smaller (albeit uglier) than today's high-end DVD players, the HD-A1 doesn't really offend too much.
By the way, inside the box, Toshiba give you manuals, a sheet of paper that tells people experiencing teething problems to call Toshiba support and NOT return the player toe the store, a power cord, Stereo audio cables, and - get this - an old-fashioned standard-def Composite video cable. I'm assuming that the latter of these is Toshiba playing some sort of April fool's joke.
Remote Control
It's easy to tell that this player's been rushed out the door quickly by the fact that the remote has several buttons that are blank, with no function assigned.
The HD-A1's remote, for some reason, reminds me of something out of the Bang & Olufsen school of design. It has a brushed steel finish, is long, thin, and reasonably heavy. Curiously, the number buttons and "SET UP" are hidden under a flap at the bottom. The remote draws power from four (4!) AAA-size batteries. My player came supplied with these, but apparently, earlier ones didn't. You see? The technology is improving all the time.
The HD-A1 remote control can also control your TV's mute, power, channel, and volume functions. Out of the box, it's of course rigged up to control Toshiba TVs. Holding "TV Code" and entering a number sequence from the instruction manual will let you use these functions with other brands of TV. (Handy tip: the remote code for the new Sony BRAVIA LCDs is 1111).
On peeling off the protective layer that the remote ships with, I discovered that the HD-A1 remote acheives a new low in ridiculous design: the fingerprint-o-riffic piano black gloss has been used ON THE REMOTE! Yes - the one part you're going to be touching the most. Seriously, what is the obsession with this glossy finish?
Picture Tweaks

Other than toggling the video output mode (between Analogue Component Video and digital HDMI), as well as switching between 480p, 720p and 1080i output resolutions, the HD-A1 offers no video tweaks at all. Except, that is, for an option to change the Black Level between 0 and 7.5 IRE. European users will probably have never seen this option before - it's really just there for the sake of the NTSC TV system's strange design.
I'd really appreciate a Sharpness control, because somewhere along the line, edge enhancement is being added to my standard-definition discs. There's currently a bug in my TV that accentuates edge enhancement (which Sony are working on) but even connecting to a monitor - which adds no unwanted tweaks to the picture at all - showed that the scaling process was creating a little bit of ringing. My old Faroudja-based Panasonic upscaling DVD player lets me soften the picture gradually to conceal this and I'd appreciate a similar tweak on the HD-A1.
Video Performance (HD DVD)

This is really difficult to judge because as of yet, there have been no other HD DVD players released. Well, OK, there's been one from American electronics manufacturer RCA (known on these shores as Thomson), but it's really just the HD-A1 in disguise - same insides, different front panel. In addition, no software I know of lets you play the discs back on a computer.
What I can tell you though, is that the HD-A1 can produce very impressive HD pictures. At the time of writing, the HD DVD titles available are visually superior to what's available on Blu-ray and look better to any HDTV broadcasts I've seen.
The currently released HD DVDs use the (comparatively) new VC1 codec, which has its roots in Microsoft's Windows Media Video codec. So, if you've ever downloaded sample clips from Microsoft's WMV HD sample site and watched them on your PC, then you'll have some idea of what to expect - just at a higher bit rate. This is one of the main reasons why the currently available HD DVD discs look better than the competing Blu-ray ones - the VC1 codec is far more efficient than the old MPEG-2 that Blu-ray discs are currently using.
The first HD DVD I popped in - "Million Dollar Baby" - instantly showed the expected difference. On the FBI warning screen (nice welcome to a new format, huh?), I could actually read the fine text in the FBI badge that read "Fidelity, Bravery, Integrity". So, I am now an upstanding young citizen thanks to the added definition of HD DVD. Following this, the "Warner Home Video" logo appears and it's apparent that the logo itself is in full HD resolution, yet the blue sky with clouds behind it was recorded in standard-def. This makes the gain in resolution blatantly obvious.
I'm sure these aren't the most exciting examples of the detail gained - but at least they leave nothing down to individual perception and show a night-and-day difference!
Update: August 25, 2006: Toshiba has released firmware version 2.0 which has improved the quality of the player's 720p output. Previously, when downscaling a 1080p HD DVD disc to 720p for output, the image was not much better than standard definition DVD. As such, I originally suggested that only users with displays adept at handling the player's 1080i output look into the HD-A1. This has now been corrected and while I still recommend using the 1080i output for the best quality, the downscaled 720p output is now far more impressive.
Because the HD-A1's 1080i output is still the method of choice, I recommend that you couple it with a TV that is good at handling 1080i video. Of course, if you can find an HDTV that actually has 1080 lines of resolution - like the new X-Series Sonys - then so much the better. Fortunately, my 1366x768 resolution Sony KDL-32V2000 HDTV does a very good job of taking the 1080 lines and resampling them to fit the available TV resolution.
After I'd watched the film (which, by the way, looked very good but did have some Noise Reduction artefacts and a smidge of edge enhancement - the fault of the disc, not the player), I took a look at the Theatrical Trailer, which is stored on the disc at 480i. I was shocked to say the least - I've always been one of the most critical people I know when it comes to the quality of video transfers, and I realise that any Trailer is unlikely to be reference quality material - but after watching 1080 lines (downscaled to 768 by my TV), going back to 480 is extremely difficult. You have been warned!
Video Performance (Old SD DVD)
In addition to this, the HD-A1 is also great at playing selected standard definition discs. By "selected", I mean NTSC discs from Regions 1 or 0 only. I realise that PAL is of almost no consequence to most US users (this player after all is a US import), but all the same a more expensive player such as this should surely be able to handle PAL's 576 lines if it can spin HD discs with 1080. (That actually makes my review nice and easy because I only have to test half of the discs I normally would!)The handling of interlaced video - for playing back television shows, for example - isn't QUITE as good as I've been used to from Faroudja-based players such as the recent Panasonic DVD-S97. I'd assume that that's because the Faroudja-based players benefit from the "DCDi" technology that smooths out the jagged lines left over from deinterlacing. The HD-A1 seems to be attempting something similar, but the effect doesn't look quite as natural.
That said, this player has none of the macroblocking enhancement errors (where blocking artefacts that already exist on the DVD are exaggerated by the player) that show up on Faroudja-based players either, so the overall image is better.
Better still, the player does not suffer from the Chroma Upsampling Error (where the edges of colours appear jagged). That means that all in all, there's a lot to like about it's handling of your DVD back catalogue.
Sadly, it doesn't pass Blacker than Black video, which means that subtle very dark shades of colour will be "crushed together" and displayed as one single black area. The effect is normally very hard to spot, but it'd be good if Toshiba could address this via a firmware upgrade. As I don't have an HD DVD test pattern disc - if such a thing exists yet - I can't tell you for sure if it's doing the same for HD DVDs, but my hunch would be that it is.
Although this player can output HD DVDs in true high definition over Component video (for those of you with HDTVs made before DVI-HDCP and HDMI became common), the upscaling of regular DVDs is still only allowed over HDMI. I can't understand for the life of me why this is but I'm sure it makes sense to some Hollywood executives somewhere.
Sound

Similar to control over the image, there aren't many options to tweak the sound. We're allowed to change the type of audio signal that goes out over the SPDIF output (PCM or Bitstream) as well as the HDMI connector (PCM, Downmixed PCM, or Bitstream).
There's also options in the menu - as you can see - to adjust Dynamic Range Control, as well as Dialog Enhancement. Unfortunately, with or without these options enabled or disabled, I experienced some pretty irritating volume drifting when playing back some standard-def DVDs. The Dolby Digital 5.1 track on the R1 DVD of "Resident Evil: Apocalypse" highlighted this issue - whenever there was loud action (like the bike crashing through the church window), the audio volume seemed to lower dramatically. This is with all of the audio tweaks turned off, so needless to say, I'm a little confused.
For whatever reason, this didn't affect the Digital Coaxial or Optical audio outputs when connected to a 5.1 set-up.
Of course, you also have to tell the player if you have a Stereo or 5.1 speaker setup.
Speed
The HD-A1 takes a full 59 seconds to "boot up". No joke - this first player has been released so early that it actually runs from PC parts (there's a widely circulated video showing the player's insides, revealing a Pentium 4 processor among other things). Even pulling the front panel flap down reveals that the discs are read by a standard PC HD DVD drive (with visible eject button).After dropping a disc, there's another wait time of either 30 seconds (for standard-def DVDs) or 52 seconds (for HD DVD) before the sparks start to fly. I'm sure those wait times will vary depending on the disc, though.
All the same, this all means that when you turn the player on and want to watch an HD DVD, you can expect to wait about two minutes before your disc actually starts to play video. Yikes. Oh well - at least after waiting for high-def video discs for five years, it's not as big a deal - right?
It's annoying, but these wait times actually sound a lot worse than they are. I'm by no means denying that they exist, but I was surprised at how little they bothered me. The boot-up time has actually decreased due to firmware upgrades, so here's hoping that Toshiba can shave even more precious seconds off with future revisions.
The layer change for SD DVD takes less than one second (and drops to half-resolution video). Supposedly, layer change time will not be an issue with HD DVD because the standard has been designed around this. In theory, players that show a slight freeze between layer changes for HD discs should be the exception rather than the rule - the exact opposite to SD-DVD.
Usability
Once again, in this department, it's clear that the HD-A1 has been rushed out the door. It's by no means hard to use, but the user interface is rarely consistent - it's a real "Frankenstein" player.Basically, the player can flip between three "modes" - "Wait for a disc to be inserted" mode, Disc Playback mode, and Set Up mode. The latter takes you to a Windows Media Centre-esque screen with a few selectable options and a button to search for new firmware upgrades (if your player is connected to the web via the Ethernet port, that is).
When I first plugged the player in through HDMI, I wasn't getting a picture at all. I soon realised that I had to manually press the "V.OUTPUT" button on the remote to enable HDMI picture mode. That's pretty strange when you consider that studios seem to want us to use the all-digital HDMI output because of the copy protection it allows for. I think that the player should have been set to output HDMI out of the box, but it's not really a big deal.
Playing back DVDs is responsive; I was pleased with the speed of fast-forwarding and rewinding. It's faster than my Panasonic SD-DVD player and, unsurprisingly, is very similar to the speed I get from fast-forwarding DVDs on my PC. That's probably no coincidence.
I should add that while playing a standard-def DVD, I did once get the HD-A1 to crash simply by pressing "Previous Chapter". The effect appeared as garbled video and the player locked up, but this was easily cured by cutting power to the player and starting again.
I'm glad to report that I experienced no "HDMI Error" issues that other users have reported. The player connected directly to my Sony HDTV without any problems. I've heard that some users have had problems with connecting the HD-A1 to their TVs via an HDMI switch. We should expect glitches like these to be fixed in later firmware versions.
I did, however, encounter an HDMI annoyance. When I was reviewing the image quality the HD-A1 puts out, I switched between different displays - an HDTV as well as a monitor. Whenever I unplugged the HDMI cable, the disc would stop and require me to play it back from the very beginning again. That's not going to have consequences for too many people, though.
In addition, changing output resolutions between 480p, 720p and 1080i when playing HD DVDs, flashed up a message telling me that since the resolution had been changed, the disc would have to start playing again from the beginning. Grrr.

Closing thoughts
I'm sure that the HD-A1 is going to acheive legendary status in the AV world. It's big, boxy, slow to boot, and still has a few issues - but I have a feeling it'll always be known as the device that introduced us to this great new format with amazing image quality.No doubt second generation players, based from dedicated chipsets rather than all-purpose PC components that have been thrown together quickly, will offer a considerable improvement in terms of speed and size. As cruel as it sounds, I actually can't wait to get rid of this machine and get whatever new and improved versions appear instead. I'd really like an HD DVD player that feels more like an actual player, and less of something that was thrown together from available parts (which this was).
If you're still sitting it out as regards to the High Definition format war, don't. By the time we know who's "won" this war, we'll be a few generations in, and players and prices will have improved considerably. So, why not pick this bargain up, enjoy HD movies right now, and then pick up a cheaper and better player of the winning format, later on? After all, it's a player for a brand new format available for LESS than what some high-end standard-def players cost!
The only other comparable option for watching HD movies right now is Sky HD. A year's subscription fees for Sky HD are about the same price as buying this player from a UK importer, and that's not including the cost of the Sky HD set top box. True, movie channels would give you better choice, but they lack the pristine picture quality and convenience available on pre-recorded media (and better yet, with HD DVD, you get to own the physical disc itself).
All you need to know is that the HD-A1 offers the best HDTV picture quality currently available, at a shockingly reasonable price (about half of the currently inferior Blu-ray's cheapest players). This makes its few issues - which might be ironed out by further firmware upgrades - extremely bearable. I just hope they hurry up and get some more titles out soon, especially some animated ones!

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At the time of writing, the HD-DVD titles available are visually superior to what's available on Blu-Ray
Is the quality much inferior? The HD spec. is the same.
the VC1 codec is far more efficient than the old MPEG-2 that Blu-Ray discs are currently using.
I thought the blue laser was far more efficient than the red laser found on HD-DVD? A codec that comes from WMV doesn't sound good I've never been a fan of that format, much preferring QuickTime then DivX/Xvid.
Because the 1080p->720p downscaling on the HD-A1 is poor, that means you will need a TV that is good at handling the 1080i video this player outputs.
That doesn't sound good. I've heard from many sources that 720p is better than 1080i as 1080i is interlaced.
there's a widely circulated video showing the player's insides, revealing a Pentium 4 processor among other things
What! That's really not what I expect from state of the art technology. It sounds like you'd be better off getting a HD-DVD drive and a MPEG2 Decoder card with Component Progressive Scan support.
I must say this player look a complete mess. I have little interest in either format until one wins OR a dual supporting player comes out (I really don't care which).
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Is the quality much inferior? The HD spec. is the same.
Specs don't count for as much as you think. Just look at current DVDs. Each disc has a resolution of 720x576 - but the quality varies wildly.
I thought the blue laser was far more efficient than the red laser found on HD-DVD?
HD-DVD also uses a Blue laser.
That doesn't sound good. I've heard from many sources that 720p is better than 1080i as 1080i is interlaced.
Again, it's not that simple - it depends on the type of content, and the hardware. As I said, on the HD-A1, 1080i looks by far better.
What! That's really not what I expect from state of the art technology. It sounds like you'd be better off getting a HD-DVD drive and a MPEG2 Decoder card with Component Progressive Scan support.
The reason it uses PC parts is because it's been put on sale quickly. There are no commercially available HD-DVD drives and an MPEG-2 decoder wouldn't do much good because from what I gather, no HD-DVDs actually use MPEG-2 (all the US releases seem to be VC1).
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Is all the hardware inside just to handle the DRM? I mean at the end of the day its a glorified DVD player isnt it so why is it so much bigger and more expensive?
Nope, not just a glorified player - the architecture is quite different.
It's actually less expensive than most top of the range DVD players.
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I heard other people complaining about the downscaling ability of the player when it was first released. Apparently, the HD-A1 doesn’t contain any downscaling chip (so I was told) and the setting on the player should be set to the resolution of the disc material (1080) rather than the resolution of your TV, leaving the TV to do the downscaling itself.
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SD upconversion again is great. Law and Order Criminal Intent which is usually quite grainy is much better, as is The World At War. Which was made over 30 years ago but looks better then ever.
At the moment HD-DVD wins over Blu-Ray when it comes to picture quality. However when Blu-Ray discs are encoded in MPEG4 this may change.
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So please quit this kind of fanboyish reviews, just wait the Pioneer or Sony players and make decisions AFTER that. I dont really care who will win the hd war, but I want to read GOOD reviews on my favourite dvd site, not adverisements...
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I gather that most of the problems on the first Blu-Ray releases are inherent to the MPEG-2 encoding they've been forced to use on the first titles, rather than the player. I'd assume that, much like original DVD, some early titles will have their problems and will be re-released at a later date in improved form.
Interesting comments though - if anything, I'm usually getting called a Sony fanboy for raving about their BRAVIA TVs so much.
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I found it informative, non-emotional and very useful. Many thanks.
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Sony made a big mistake to let Samsung to produce the first player for the format.
Fair point in the sense Samsung can't beat the likes of Sony, Panasonic or Pioneer but that's not to say Samsung are a bad company far from it. It's much more likely they too rushed out a player before it was ready.
Agreed Fan boy review it is not but if we're nitpicking I was expecting more detail in the way of how good/bad the HD-DVDs look.
HD-DVD also uses a Blue laser.
So they changed their mind? I definitely read HD-DVD will use the existing red laser.
MPEG-2 decoder wouldn't do much good because from what I gather, no HD-DVDs actually use MPEG-2 (all the US releases seem to be VC1).
Oops good point.
Blu-ray discs have much more storage capability but in reality this doesn't mean a great deal. It's sounding like another DVD+ / DVD- where both are essentially as good as each other.
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Agreed Fan boy review it is not but if we're nitpicking I was expecting more detail in the way of how good/bad the HD-DVDs look.
To be honest, it's quite difficult to describe how they look in words beyond "excellent". Think DVD but way, way more detailed and with no visible compression problems even when your nose is practically touching the screen. There are a couple of issues with Million Dollar Baby that I suspect originate from the digital intermediate rather than the encoding (in which case, even cinema presentations would have been affected by them), and I'll discuss them in my review of the disc, which will hopefully be available soon.
Of course, the real problem is that there's currently no way to get a 1:1 screen capture from the discs. That, hopefully, will change once Cyberlink and Intervideo release their HD-DVD plug-ins and/or players, at which point I think I'll pick up an HD-DVD drive for my PC, even if only for review/comparison purposes. (Of course, it's entirely feasible to pull the drive out of the HD-A1 and stick it in your PC, but that's more trouble than it's worth.)
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Originally Posted by Hanzaki:
The shitty Samsung BD-P1000 player just too lame and buggy to show any good blu-ray performance, Sony made a big mistake to let Samsung to produce the first player for the format. :rolleyes:
So please quit this kind of fanboyish reviews
If anything, you sound like a Sony fanboy. It's letting Sony off the hook to suggest that all the negative reaction to the first wave of Blu-ray discs is due to the player.
From what I've read, Sony made a big mistake using MPEG-2 encoding for the initial releases. They've run into disc space problems - and can't yet make a dual-layer disc that actually works. Because HD-DVD beat them to the market, Sony panicked (or got greedy) and are short-changing their customers with sub-standard product. This first batch of Blu-ray discs should never have been released, the technology simply wasn't ready.
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That said I think I'll still wait, not because of the format war but just to see what the 2nd gen of HD-DVD Players does in terms of quality and price. If the Tosh HD-A1 could handle multiregion DVD then I might not be quite as patient :)
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I think I'll pick up an HD-DVD drive for my PC, even if only for review/comparison purposes.
It would actually probably be better value to buy a new HD-A1, take the drive out, and then sell the rest on eBay for spare parts.
I'll bet when HD-DVD drives for PCs first start to appear, they don't cost much less than this player. That's IF HD-DVD drives appear soon - Blu-Ray's promise of more storage could end up wrapping up the computer market...
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Originally Posted by DaveF:
If the Tosh HD-A1 could handle multiregion DVD then I might not be quite as patient :)
Have there been any rumblings about European launch dates for HD-DVD and/or Blu-ray (players and discs) yet?
I think that's when I'll really start to take an interest. My DVD collection is probably 60-70% NTSC but I'd like a player that can handle PAL discs too - I haven't really got space (or the inclination) to own multiple players. And I wonder if multi-region HD players will be as easy to get hold of as multi-region DVD players? It could be a long wait.
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-A hybrid (HD-DVD + Blu-Ray) multiregion player for less than 300€ (£200).
-At least 1 000 HD titles available.
So I'll probably go HD in 2008 or later. :p
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Oh yes I forgot that this players inability to play PAL media. In this day and age this is unforgivable.
The thing is this player isn't cheap when you consider it's a US import. To say it's cheap is putting British pricing on US hardware.
And I wonder if multi-region HD players will be as easy to get hold of as multi-region DVD players? It could be a long wait.
I seem to remember it was a while before multiregion DVD players came out. The Samsung 709 was first big one to hit the market.
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The thing is this player isn't cheap when you consider it's a US import. To say it's cheap is putting British pricing on US hardware.
Yeah, but since we're in the UK there's not much choice. Put it this way: £450 (including a step-down transformer) for a first-gen HD-DVD player is a pretty good price when you consider what a top of the line upscaling DVD player sells for. Obviously the comparison doesn't look so hot when you compare it to your average £50 supermarket DVD player, but that's not exactly a realistic comparison.
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Originally Posted by Phil Q:
Have there been any rumblings about European launch dates for HD-DVD and/or Blu-ray (players and discs) yet?
Not that I've heard. You'd have to assume some form of Blu-ray release around the same time as the PS3 in November. At the very least I'd expect some Blu-ray titles to be released, if not the separate Blu-ray Players.
I think that's when I'll really start to take an interest. My DVD collection is probably 60-70% NTSC but I'd like a player that can handle PAL discs too - I haven't really got space (or the inclination) to own multiple players. And I wonder if multi-region HD players will be as easy to get hold of as multi-region DVD players? It could be a long wait.
I guess they'll have to finalise the region-coding spec before we can think about multi-region HD players. One school of thought is these early HD-DVD Players carry no region-coding hardware/software, so could be the first multi-region HD players available :D But then they might just force a firmware update via future HD-DVD discs (in the same way Sony does with the PSP) that enables region-coding in the hardware.
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Oh yes I forgot that this players inability to play PAL media. In this day and age this is unforgivable.
Not really when you consider this player is intended for sale in the USA. DVD Players that support PAL were very rare in America until fairly recently, with the newer models now offering PAL>NTSC conversion (because don't forget, very few American TVs can display PAL material). Even then most are restricted to R0 PAL discs, as multiregion out of the box is not very common over there.
Although it's a key reason stopping me from picking up this player (as I'm with Phil Q, I don't want nor do I have the room for separate players) you have to understand the intended market.
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-A hybrid (HD-DVD + Blu-Ray) multiregion player for less than 300€ (£200).
-At least 1 000 HD titles available.
So I'll probably go HD in 2008 or later. :p
I can understand the first point, but why settle for a best-of-both-worlds low-cost player when you've got £10K laying around for movies (assuming an average cost of £10 per film)?? :p
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Basically, it talked of the Amazon.com high-def sales chart:
http://www.lyris-lite.net/fu_archives/amazon_hddvd.gif
The HD-DVD player is also the 360th-or-so best selling item on the web site. By comparison, the Samsung Blu-Ray deck is in the 3000s. It could still go any way though.
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Not really when you consider this player is intended for sale in the USA. DVD Players that support PAL were very rare in America until fairly recently, with the newer models now offering PAL>NTSC conversion (because don't forget, very few American TVs can display PAL material). Even then most are restricted to R0 PAL discs, as multiregion out of the box is not very common over there.
True but you know what that's excuse not a reason.
ALL equipment should be multiformat compatible in this day and age. American equipment is really far behind the rest of the world in this respect.
Although it's a key reason stopping me from picking up this player (as I'm with Phil Q, I don't want nor do I have the room for separate players)
I already own two DVD Players stacked on top of each other I'm sure as hell not getting a third:
1. All singing, all dancing Pioneer 868 top of their range last year with SACD/DVD-A support
2. Pioneer Hard Disk/DVD Recorder with built in Freeview and DivX
Both serve different purposes but considering an HD-DVD/Blue-Ray Combo will replace the first one it's going to be a while (if ever) these will appear also with SACD/DVD-A support.
I may end up having to relegate one to a separate room. I've been meaning to look into a dedicated HC room.
Originally Posted by DaveF:
I can understand the first point, but why settle for a best-of-both-worlds low-cost player when you've got £10K laying around for movies (assuming an average cost of £10 per film)?? :p
It makes even less when sense when you know Tom has a state of the art 100" projector but oddly thinks sub £200 players are the way to go :D . Still he kinda has a point when you look how good the Pioneer combo (DVD/DVD-A/SACD/DivX) sub-£200 players are. I say "kinda" as my Pioneer player is definitely produces a better image than my Pioneer recorder on the same material.
Still this is the man who doesn't believe in virus checkers or antispyware tools ;)
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Originally Posted by David Mackenzie:
Looks like the thread got deleted.
Basically, it talked of the Amazon.com high-def sales chart:
http://www.lyris-lite.net/fu_archives/amazon_hddvd.gif
The HD-DVD player is also the 360th-or-so best selling item on the web site. By comparison, the Samsung Blu-Ray deck is in the 3000s. It could still go any way though.
That could be down to the actual titles instead of the format.
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